Tiger Woods vs. Ben Hogan Part 2



Learn Ben Hogans Secret

On the rare occasion when Tiger Woods is not playing well in a tournament, it seems that the television golf announcers are always quick to point out what they perceive to be a major flaw in Tiger's swing. In this Tiger vs Hogan swing comparison, this myth is not only dispelled but I will show that this same "flaw" is in fact a positive attribute possessed by many of the greatest players, including Ben Hogan.
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20 Responses to “Tiger Woods vs. Ben Hogan Part 2”

  1. brad stecklein says:

    @jkjdv “all contemporary golf instruction should be based on.” –classic
    fear mongerer’s phrase! you should research Don Trahan–you’d like him. You
    both know it all! I’ve known a couple of accomplished tournament players
    throughout the years who could A) pummel it and B) maintain handicaps on
    the plus side. Neither did more cardio than walking four feet away from
    their golf cart. and neither lifted more than 12 ounces at a time!

  2. johnhayesiv says:

    jkjdv, take it easy bud!

  3. Wayne Defrancesco says:

    @johnhayesiv He’s had 3 months to settle down.

  4. johnhayesiv says:

    Hey Wayne could you do an analysis of Tiger during his “Tiger Slam” or
    maybe an early 90’s swing when he hit it a mile

  5. Hersper says:

    Hello mr. Defrancesco, I was wondering what are your thought’s about
    Hogan’s hips getting deeper in the backswing. I haven’t really seen many
    players do that deep a move, so could that be one of the reasons hogan was
    such a pure ballstriker? It seems that Hogans left hip isn’t moving as much
    forward (from a dtl view) when compared to many others.

  6. Sean Illes says:

    @wdefrancesco I find the entire TPI system to be nothing more than another
    scam vaguely based upon the model that Paul Chek used for scamming golfers
    years ago. Offer TPI certification, levels, etc. and charge exorbitant fees
    for moving up the ladder. Training golfers from a sports science
    perspective is so laughably easy, that it is a joke. Wayne, just as you are
    aware of the charlatans in golf instruction, so are others cogniscient of
    the same conmen and snake oil peddlers in sport training.

  7. GRAND THEFT MANIMAL Gaming and Buffoonery says:

    This particular version of Hogan’s swing looks like his old hook-prone
    swing he had trouble with. I noticed the length is way too long compared to
    his best and the overall motion isn’t anywhere near as tight. I think if
    you compared the proper Hogan swing you’d see a striking difference!

  8. Wayne Defrancesco says:

    @raosko Hogan played his best golf and even said that he never hit the ball
    better than he did before his accident. He won the money title 3 straight
    years before the war, 13 events in 1947, and 9 out of 12 in 1949, besides
    winning 3 majors between 46 and 48, before the bus hit his car. His
    “tighter” motion was due to his injuries and physical limitations. This is
    Hogan at his best. Without the accident he would have won 30 majors. Almost
    no one could beat him.

  9. jeffy10028 says:

    Close, but not quite on the the number of wins during the “Power Golf” era.
    13 in 1946, 7 in 1947, 10 or 11 in 1948 (I see different counts from
    different sources) and 2 of 4 in 1949 (the accident occurred on February
    2). Also 5 wins in 1945 on a reduced schedule since he wasn’t discharged
    until mid-year (although he did play some events while still in the
    service, 3 in 1944, for example).

  10. jeffy10028 says:

    30 majors? Impossible. He won his first at age 34 in 1946, two more in
    1948. None in 1949 because of the accident, then six more during the four
    years 1950 through 1953. Assuming no accident and he played three majors
    each year (the British Open dates typically conflicted with the PGA in
    those days, so it was usually one or the other), to reach 30, he would have
    had to have won ALL of them for nine straight years from 1949 through 1957,
    when he would turn 45.

  11. jeffy10028 says:

    One other thing, Hogan said in the “Hard Case from Texas” interview that he
    never “played better” than 1948 and 1949. But there was more than one
    occasion post-accident when he said at the time that he had never struck
    the ball better, the 1951 Masters being one of them. No less an authority
    than Cary Middlecoff, a top competitor from the late 1940s onward, wrote
    that, post-accident, Hogan hit the ball with more “authority” and only then
    acquired the aura of complete mastery of the ball.

  12. Wayne Defrancesco says:

    Ok, how about 25? Remember that he played Snead in 1965 (age 52) and hit
    every fairway and every green. His putting went to hell due to
    complications from the accident (vision related) as did his ability to play
    more than a few tournaments a year. Consider his work ethic combined with
    his mastery of technique (he won 9 of the last 12 tournaments he played in
    before the accident) and I think you can easily get to 25. Then remember it
    was Hogan and you might even make it to 30. Greatest ever.

  13. jeffy10028 says:

    I don’t know. He was talking about quitting the game in 1948, the grind was
    getting to him. Nelson had already quit by then and Snead cut back after
    1950 when he felt he deserved Player of the Year but it went to Hogan
    because of the comeback win at Merion. I agree he could have won many more
    than nine, and don’t forget he lost three prime years to WWII, but 30 is a
    tall order. And I bet his fondness for martinis also had something to do
    with his putting woes as he got older.

  14. jeffy10028 says:

    Hogan cured the hook for good in 1946 when he discovered the “secret”; this
    swing is from 1947 and, as Wayne correctly points out, was from the period
    when he absolutely dominated the tour.

  15. GRAND THEFT MANIMAL Gaming and Buffoonery says:

    That might be so, but I don’t have the same admiration for this motion as
    it just isn’t as “crisp” and solid and compact and just efficient looking
    as say his famous swing at Marion’s last hole with the 1 iron.

  16. GRAND THEFT MANIMAL Gaming and Buffoonery says:

    I don’t understand where the proof of this vision related putting problem
    post accident comes from? Isn’t it far more likely the more common
    occurrence of the dreaded yips? kinda like a PTSD for tournament golfers.

  17. Scott U says:

    if you pay attention to their postures too; tiger’s is pretty much perfect
    from start to finish, a lot of modern tour players posture is posed this
    way, where as hogan’s posture is a tad off plane on his set up but as he
    takes the club back it syncs up more to the plane into the address. I like
    that, it’s more natural and relaxed looking, where as tiger’s is very
    machine like, and it kinda puts me on edge.

  18. Dave G says:

    I think Hogan got through the hitting area better (smoother) than Tiger,
    especially when looking at the face-on view. You can tell that he ripped
    it.

  19. Richard Warren (Coupon Pickr) says:

    Boring…

  20. DIMKA DIMKA says:

    back at hogan days He was competing against like 3 other dudes with a
    chance. now a days he would be good but not dominant.

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